and when i say a full deck of cards, that includes defense participating in deficit reduction. this cannot be in the case of defense a sledgehammer approach. it's going to take a long runway dealing with these issues over time to give the defense department, and they can make, in my view, very significant changes in the budget, but do it in a way that does not damage our security. doing it abruptly as the fiscal cliff does or in a very compressed time frame is not only inefficient, i think it endangers our security and our risk. my final point is that the missing element in this town is primarily political will, and i say that in regard to both political parties. and the solution, the solution that has to be forthcoming in the weeks ahead and the months ahead require our leaders -- will require our leaders to, first of all, put our nation first. that has got to be the primary focus of our political leadership, to put the interest of our country first. so thank you, pete, for your leadership. thank you, admiral mullen. and it's always a great pleasure for me to be here with john